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#1 Thed

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 03:45 PM

www.ammunitionstore.com is now carrying cases of this ammunition.

1000 rnds: $159.95

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Here is the website to NATEC-US

About Us

NATEC, Inc., located in Plattsburgh, New York is the sole manufacturer of the world's first, high pressure, polymer-cased ammunition (PCA). The company's facilities are located along the flightline of the closed Plattsburgh Air Force Base, and include administrative offices, an inert component parts manufacturing facility, and an assembly building with a DoD-approved indoor test firing range. In addition, NATEC leases bunker storage and an off-site indoor/outdoor test firing range located within minutes of the general facilities.

Our staff, led by President and CEO, Dr. Nabil Husseini has been determined to prove the viability of polymer-cased ammunition since the 1990's. As the owner of Amtech, Inc. (essentially the predecessing company to NATEC), Dr. Husseini enlisted a world leader in manufacturing polymers, DuPont to engineer an advanced polymer to withstand the high pressures and temperatures associated with rifle ammunition. Working together, and as proof of the advances made in engineering polymers, these companies have successfully achieved what others have attempted to accomplish since the 1960's... high pressure, polymer-cased ammunition.

The U.S. Military has substantial interest in this revolutionary technology due to its ever present need to lower the weight of the soldier and aircraft. The Office of Naval Research, with Marine Corps sponsorship awarded a contract to the company in 1999 to test, evaluate, and qualify the polymer-cased ammunition for service use. A follow-on award ensued in 2000, with a final Pre-Qualification Screening Test passed successfully in 2001. The project is currently under assessment by the U.S. Army (the end qualifier and procurer of all small arms ammunition for the U.S. Military) for validation of the service-suitability of the NATEC polymer-cased ammunition, which is timely in nature with the current objective of the U.S. Army to lighten the soldier's load. Combined with the pressure put on our Armed Forces to field technologically-advanced products near-term as a part of the Country's War on Terrorism, NATEC is optimistic that the military version of their polymer-cased ammunition will see service use in 2004.

Products

NATEC's patented (and patents pending), lightweight, polymer-cased ammunition (PCA) is produced in Plattsburgh, New York. The cartridges utilize standard projectiles, primers, and propellants that are currently supplied by existing manufacturers. The base cap is cold formed from standard cartridge brass, and the casing is injection molded from the exclusively supplied polymer.

The unique, patent pending manufacturing process is centered on the one-step insert injection molding of the projectile into the polymer casing on state-of-the-art equipment. The interface is consistent (no crimping) and is self-sealing ensuring waterproofness of the cartridge. The primed base cap is then snapped on forming an interference fit after propellant loading.

Benefits:
PCA exhibits many benefits for the consumer over existing, similarly priced, metal-cased products, including:

Superior accuracy.
Consistent, reliable performance.
Reduced heat transfer to the weapon.
Cool to the touch fired casings.
Reduced cost compared to existing "brand name" ammunition.
Products:

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PCA - Spectrum, currently available for the commercial/law enforcement markets include:

.223 REM, 55 grain FMJBT
.223 REM, 55 grain Sierra Blitzking
.223 REM, 69 grain Sierra Matchking HPBT.
PCA available in mid-2004 include:

.308, 150 grain FMJBT
.308, 150 grain Sierra Gameking
.308, 168 grain Sierra Matchking
The Company intends to expand its product line to include the 50 cal in the near term, as well as additional commercial calibers in the future.

NATEC PCA is the Future of Ammunition... Today! Our products are currently being shipped to distributors nationwide, so ask your local sporting goods retailer about purchasing our PCA - Spectrum. We are certain you'll be pleased with its performance, and price!


I am interested in trying it. I like the fashion colors of the cases :D

-Thed
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#2 Fullmedaljacket8 Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 12:51 PM

No 7.62x39mm... NOOOoooooooOoooooo :violin:
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#3 emclean Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 04:42 PM

fmj, you need an AR

i am just picuring fireing and a stream of red, white, and blue "brass" comming out. i wonder if they will sell direct to the public?
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#4 Thed Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 04:45 PM

This ammo is already being sent to distributors.

I think this is going to be the next .223 I purchase. The price is reasonable, figuring $160 for 55gr FMJBT.

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#5 emclean Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 05:00 PM

i e-mailed them to see if i could buy direct, i will let you know what they say.
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#6 Thed Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 05:04 PM

groovy.

I wonder what it would take to be a distributor, or buy in bulk......

A group buy sure would be neat.

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 05:07 PM

i asked what there minimumm lot is.
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Posted 09 August 2004 - 08:35 PM

Hey Guys,

Awhile back I got a law enforcement sample of the .223 ammo.

I am impressed with the quality. I have anly fired a few rounds and it seems to function fine.

Will let you know when I get to do a better test.
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Posted 09 August 2004 - 09:08 PM

here is what i got from them

(name), thank you for your interest in our line of ammunition. Natec does not sell directly to the public. We sell to distributors who in turn sell to gun shops, sporting goods retailers and FFL holders.

You should be able to go to you local gun shop or sporting goods retailer and if they do not have it in stock, they can order it in from one of their major distributors. If you are having a problem finding our ammunition or you local dealer will not order it in, email me back your city, state and a couple of your local zip codes and I will find a dealer that either has it in stock or one who would order it in for you. Natec also has a 55 grain Tracer round available as an exclusive through a distributor called Williams Shooter Supply. If you are interested in this Tracer load, have your dealer call Williams.

I am also attaching a Fact sheet on our ammunition.

If I can be of any additional help, let me know.

Charlie Rist
Sales Manager
Natec Inc.


if you want there fact shees PM me and i can send it to you.
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#10 JReeves997 Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 10:45 PM

Huh..., Williams Shooter's supply is one of my Dists.

Lemme check...
*5 min later*

These are just Preliminary prices, but it looks like I can do .223 for $160/1,000rds., $85/500 rds., and $18/100rds.

If anyone is interested, post and PM me, and I'll see what the cost will be after S&H and so on. I'll post that to the board.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 10:48 PM

oooh, wait a sec,...ammunitionstore is cheaper!

Ok, I'll do a case for $155, a half for $80, and a box o' 20 for $3.25....
Anyone interested?
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:00 PM

I just got a case of this stuff in 55gr .223

I read the side of the 20 round box and it said "Not for use in Fluted Chambers" :-:

Arrrgggghghhhhh!

Looks like nice stuff though. I'm betting the AR's will love it.

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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:11 PM

I assume this type of casing is a one-time use. Correct? Also I noticed that on the box that the rounds were made to SAAMI specs....so, would the commercial market have access to NATO spec ammo of the PCA make?
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:27 PM

Hey Guys,

Awhile back I got a law enforcement sample of the .223 ammo.

I am impressed with the quality.  I have anly fired a few rounds and it seems to function fine.

Will let you know when I get to do a better test.

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 12:53 AM

How much would we have to get for a groupbuy discount?

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 07:45 AM

have to get someone with a FFL to try to order it from the compney, they dont sell direct to the user
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#17 iroc409 Re: NATEC Spectrum .223 .308 and other Ammo

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 12:56 PM

i've heard some bad reviews about their civilian stuff, like cases not holding together, and even causing jams from case pieces staying in the weapon (or worse - the barrel). i think the le/military version or whatever is better ammo for some reason, but it only comes in gray or something.

i'm thinking about maybe just ordering a box of it, just to have lol :)
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 12:05 AM

Warlock, do u have any input on my question? Or is Nato spec ammo limited to military?
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Posted 01 October 2004 - 01:36 AM

I'll watch this ammo for a few years and let the kinks get worked out before I buy any.
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Posted 01 October 2004 - 05:11 AM

I guess so.....besides, I'll have more fun reloading. =)
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Posted 01 October 2004 - 06:27 AM

Ohhhhh, I read "Polymer COATED Ammunition". That explains why I was confused with all of the cases failing and sh*t getting stuck in your weapon talk.

Neat-o...plastic.

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