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#1 granitemonkey

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 09:26 AM

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They make it commercially now, they have a 240 GR load and a 300 GR load. I wonder what Buffalo Bore could do with a .445 Supermag??


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#2 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 09:29 AM

That's weird, it doesn't seem that they list any velocity or energy figures for the loads.
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#3 BrowningBDA Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 09:48 AM

Damn... $27 dollars per 20 rounds...


Thats a $1.35 per pull of the trigger... as compared to about $.40-$.45 for .44 mag & .45 colt...





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#4 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 10:49 AM

They are loaded with XTP bullets though, so it's closer to premium hunting ammunition than just plinkers.

I'd definitely still say it's more of a handloaders-only type cartridge though.
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Posted 12 June 2006 - 10:53 AM

Definitely for the premium handgun hunter market.. which is cool.

I was looking into the .460's... decided against. A CZ 527 bolt action carbine in 7,62x39 ended up getting the job as "deer" gun this year... with a .44 in a hip holster.

Funny thing.. the CZ rifle weighs less than the S&W 460 I was looking at... it was much easier to carry!



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#6 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 09:29 AM

I'm still interested to see what the long-term verdict on the .460 is. Seems like with any sort of regular use, forcing cone erosion and flame cutting on the top strap will make themselves obvious. IIRC, .454 Casulls even are known for having some forcing cone issues. It'll just be interesting to see if anyone actually shoots one enough to wear it out.

Let us know how that CZ shoots though. I've read alot of positive things on them, wouldn't mind getting one myself someday. I've always found the .22 Hornet model pretty interesting.
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Posted 13 June 2006 - 09:58 AM

The CZ 527 carbine hersion is a kick arse little gun. It has the same basic weight & general handiness as a 10/22... but with the punch of .223, .22 hornet, .204 ruger.. or 7,62x39

I dont think anyone would shoot the .460 enough... the thing is just huge.. that cylinder is intimidating... like a coke can.
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#8 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 11:10 AM

Reminds me of an article on the Magnum Research BFR in .45-70. It always stuck with me, the author described loading it as feeling like putting cigars in a coffee can.
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Posted 13 June 2006 - 11:41 AM

I wonder... how close is the 460 dimensionally to the .45-70?

I remember thinking of the BFR when I was holding the 460..


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#10 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 01:06 PM

I think the .45-70 is about a 1/4" longer and a little fatter at the base since it tapers. Just eyeballing though they'd probably appear pretty similar.
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Posted 13 June 2006 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE(BrowningBDA @ Jun 13 2006, 09:58 AM) View Post

I dont think anyone would shoot the .460 enough... the thing is just huge.. that cylinder is intimidating... like a coke can.

LOL.


You really need a 460 Browning (...*cough* so you'll have something to make grips for my 500 on *cough*)

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 05:55 PM

I'll make you a stock... hehehe




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Posted 14 June 2006 - 06:27 PM

That's not a bad idea actually.
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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:55 PM

I got inspired at the shot show... a guy had built a stock & PUMP forearm for a revolver... the rearward motion of the pump would cock the hammer & rotate the cylinder. Its genius.


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Posted 14 June 2006 - 08:57 PM

You would need a really long bbl revolver to do that.
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#16 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 10:30 PM

You'd need a long barrel anyway do to NFA rules if I'm not mistaken.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:36 AM

The actual pump stroke required is only about 1"-2"...

NFA rules would apply true... jsut depends on how you build them though... if the revolver starts out life as a carbine already...

Same for another fellow APG member who is marketing the "Mare's Leg" lever action pistol, based on the old TV western show gun.. its not an SBR because the frame was never used in a rifle... it started out life as a handgun.. thus why he is able to make them & sell them as a handgun.

http://www.jbcustom.com/new-mares.htm
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#18 eldon519 Re: Dan Wesson .445 Supermag ammo

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:41 AM

All I meant is that I don't think you can slap a stock on something unless it has a 16 inch or longer barrel without creating an SBR.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:41 PM

I was kidding though.. hehe


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Posted 01 July 2006 - 08:01 PM

Silly rules. I always thought the whole Broomhandled Mauser with holster/stock combo was a neat idea. It would probably work great for X-Frame revolvers as well.
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