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  3. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here is video of early water barrel test of the 12ga From Hell, from years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48zTpsgbuk Here is picture from that video.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/Shot%203.jpg Here is the intermediate size action for 416 HSM with test barrel, .Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/intertargetp.jpg
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  5. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here is picture of the bolt from the experimental action, with our 416 HSM case in it. Note the amount of the base size of locking lugs, the amount of area on the bolt.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/interboltp.jpg[/IMG] Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU, Good pictures............www.585he.cz We tested intermediate action with a 700HE barrel we had here. Just temporary to test strength. 1000 gr over 3100.. Action worked fine.. Ed.
  6. Ammo prices are up hurricane s and other storms are wreaking havic and to culminating Joe I hope you find the ass wipe who is putting needles in the strawberries in your neck of the woods. Also trying to find parts for my pistol.
  7. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Experimental intermediate size action with the Montana PH, for comparison. It is an experimental action for our 416 HSM, to do our speed testing with and get a better action than Cheytac size actions, for bigger case ELR use, without going all way up to more expensive, huge actions. It is big long round style action that can take our 416 HSM, almost 1.6" diameter and .800" bolt, with locking lugs nearly as big as most BMG actions.... ED http://www.gunownerstv.com/intermediates.jpg
  8. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    About 416 cal bullets............ The heaviest 550 gr for Extreme ELR probably be best 8 to 1 twist , in 416 caliber bullet, and 520 gr 9.5 to 1, and 470gr 10 to one, Some barrels I picked up are 10 to 1....... Now a novel idea is to lighten rear of bullet with small shallow hole drilled in base, might do better long range.which would allow 10 to one barrel stabilize the heavier 550 gr bullets for ELR. Making bullet nose heavier makes it more stable in flight, needing less spin, like our hollow base 585 cal minie bullets only need 48 to 1 twist, or less while out regular 585 bullets need about 24 to 1 to stabilise them.............. The winner of the King Of 2 Mile shoot last week was using 416 Barrett with a 1 to 10 twist, with a 500 gr CEB Lazer bullet, ...Robert Brantley, with Manners Stocks.... Paul Philips was third with a 416... GOOD NEWS-- There is now an importer and seller of our 585 HE brass getting set up here, in US, hopefully will be in stock, few weeks........ http://bertrambrass.com .. .. Caleb Hallet.. Have got another intermediate size action besides the Montana PH our guys working on, to do speed testingwith. It is big long REM style action that can take our 416 HSM, ED
  9. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here is sectioned 585 HE case in the middle, we first made from another case, years ago before we had factory run of brass and it had perfect thickness on the sides and inside corrner. We could fire them many times without sides thinning.. First case is factory run of our 585 HE, 3rd is case that is too thick of sides and sticks at high pressures.. Pic of our factory run cases necked down to 375 and fired 4 times at high pressure on the right, with unfired case on the left. Our case is not perfect but does work...Ed
  10. macho999

    What's going on?

    Good question! Why weren't you here posting? I think facebook killed the internet. Also, nothing very interesting gun-wise seemed to be happening.
  11. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here is picture of thick 375 case sent to me, with thick sided trex case, and our HE case, The thick 375 case is .050" bigger OD base, but inside is no bigger than HE cases.. These thick sided 375s stuck for the guy using them, when loaded over 44,000 psi.... http://www.gunownerstv.com/brandv.jpg Got guys asking and doing it, to do 416 HSM case for BMG actions, so leaving rim same, as the original bmg rim, so will neck them, fire form to the longer shoulder, like the others. Base a little bigger, Shoulder same diameter, same 30 degree slant, neck will be same.. Inside of case still has close to same shape, volumne within 3 % as ones we slimmed down more. Some want to use bmg actions and can't wait for intermediate actions, or already have bmg action. And they are really getting interested in the complete line of 416 CEB bullets now being done clear up to 550 gr... So there will be 3 versions, one for actions .750" bolt, one for .800-.850" bolt, And one for bigger bmg bolts. The ones for BMG called 416 HSM2 .. Here is 416 HSM guy working in a Montana PH, in a heavy thumbhole target stock. Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/mrcphhsm.jpg
  12. Hi guys even though I am not a newbie I haven't posted anything in a while do to health issues. Got some380 ammo that corroded in my pistol field stripped gun cleaned it and mags put new ammo. Now do I Chuck the corroded stuff or is there a way to salvage it btw its only 7 rounds but its home defense rounds.
  13. Martingail

    Hi everyone

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  14. AK Man

    What's going on?

    Is this forum still alive? And they wonder why our 2nd amendment is in jeopardy. Back when I joined the interest in guns was everywhere. It used to be hard to find a forum that you could get a question in without getting buried in responses, now it is like a ghost town. What is the reason people don't want to be on forums?
  15. The term AK-12 is for the 5.45 (AK74) caliber.
  16. Russian A-545 rifle spotted Feb 2018 dated images of the latest A-545 (6P67) iteration that was officially adopted back in Jan 2018.
  17. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Guy sent thick sided 375 case, next size base diameter up from Nyati.He said, 'Yes I ran them in a ___________ rifle built by ____, the best I could get was 44000 psi, any more and they were stuck'' Big bore guys. other forums over the years related that trex/african case in 585 size, thick sided cases, stuck when they loaded them over 45k psi. Another just sent us, thick sided 375, long case, same base OD as our 585 HE, 416 HE, 375 HE, and Mitch's 375 Lethal, and the thick ones stuck over 45k psi. Now you can fill those cases up, with ultra slow enough powder so they won't stick, but powder is too slow for max speed. Might get a little more speed, with thick sides case, but case got to be 4- 4.5 inches long.. . Anyone needing a sectioned case of the ones I made the first of my 585s from, contact me, if they want to get a general idea of what case side thickness should be, in Gibbs size cases on up to about trex and 375 VM size case diameter. Here is pic of our 585 based case next to brand X and thick ones, both have same sharp, thinner, corner, where transition from heavy angled corner, to the side, the carbide draw rod could easily be reshaped with diamond wheel, just by grinding off sharp transition corner. Then sides would be perfect.., . http://www.gunownerstv.com/brandxthick.jpg Here is picture of 416 HE in a Choate target/varmint stock guy is doing, using long action BSA U9 action.Setting in stock ready to do bedding..Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/choate416he.jpg
  18. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here is a drawing depicting the layout of thick and thin sided cases, like my 585/375/416 HE thin sided ones and the thick one in picture. And my 585 case is not perfect, as where it transitions from the heavier corner to the side it isn't gradual, so case separates there shortening case life. There are others made that way including brand X. The dotted line is what it should be............ [IMGhttp://www.gunownerstv.com/casedrawing.jpg[/IMG] Others have sent cases to section and look at, that are built thick sided and they stick also for the folks, If a longer case with about 5 sq in of side surface sticks and don't spring back, the coefficient of friction is about .01 then the pull needed to move it is 2500-3500 lbs..That is for big cases with normal amount of slant to the sides. Here is picture of six nyati and gibbs size cases sectioned.. the5th one is present 585 HE and 6th is thick sided version. 1st 600 OK which essentially nyati basic case left straight, belt added http://www.gunownerstv.com/allnyati.jpg[/IMG] In the picture the nyati gma is one we built most of our first 585s on. Before we had factory run. Reworking made it in size that is my 585 HE, but that brass had the sides of perfect thickness, not too thick, but thin without sharp transition my new factory 585s had, they last forever as 585s...... Fourth one is an older nyati case I used to make about 10 of my 585s from,had thin sides, heavy corner and sharp transition from the corner, tested 20 years ago, and they would separate after 4-6 hot loads as 585s, my factory 585 with right powders, as a 585 will get 10 hot loads, and necked down to 416/375 4- 6 hot loads, right powders used, Moderate 577 equivalent, factory 585 at least 20 loads..Ed.
  19. Dradarman

    Thompson knockoff

    RE: The Apache Arms 45 made in Tempe AZ. A good friend of mine in high school's father was one of the owners of the company. I did work there for a very short time. My friend and I put hundreds of rounds through one that he had. The company closed up around the end of 1969. From what I remember there were two versions. The early version looked more like a grease gun whit a round receiver. I ran into one of those in the early 80's it was in the office of a security company I was doing some work for at the time and is the only one I have seen. The owner of the gun was surprised I knew what it was. As I remember the early version was the one mentioned in a previous post that was was deemed a class 6 firearm and was banned. That design almost put the company out of business. The last I knew the version with the rectangle receiver had never had the weak sear problem causing them to go full auto. As far as the 1962 date on the paperwork I don't think the later model with the rectangle receiver was made that early but I was only involved with Apache Arms my senior year in HS 1968/69. It was the 1968 gun control act that pretty much put the nail in the company's coffin. About the only thing I can add to this is there was a chrome version. I did see one for sale about a year ago and they were asking in the mid $400's.
  20. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    For big long cases our testing is showing that the 416 easier to get powders to work with, less problems .. Maybe building a target gun,don't have 375 barrel all ready, maybe go 416.... We got cases, 416 HE and 416 HSM, as well as 375... CEB and others will have bullets...CEB will be doing .416 in 450gr, 475gr, 500gr, 525gr and 550gr Got sent 5 thick sided sample cases, same OD base as 585/375.416 cases, same belt, just .180" longer, did a 416 HE, chambered extra barrel , cases stick over 50k. They have about .042" total taper, .021" per side, when I necked couple to 416. That is a lot of taper , twice the taper of my 416HE...hanging up at 50k.. I could maybe go to 65k with these if we made taper with ..012" - .016" more taper to each side, but that is no way to build target cases. I'd have to crunch down case shoulder diameter. And would look like 30-30. And crazy part is, the case has enough brass material to thin up sides and stretch them way out to 4 or more inches,, They weigh 150 gr more than our 585/375/416,, but with real thick sides they actually hold less than our 416 HE with thin sides, that is .180" shorter...Our case does 65k ok without sticking.. And we can make super long 4" cases work if we had means to get them built, as we have 15 powders slower than HBMG.Here is pic of thin and thick sided cases, sectioned for comparison.Ed.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/thickthin.jpg[/IMG]
  21. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    For big long cases our testing is showing that the 416 easier to get powders to work with, less problems .. Maybe building a target gun,don't have 375 barrel all ready, maybe go 416.... We got cases, 416 HE and 416 HSM, as well as 375... CEB and others will have bullets...CEB will be doing .416 in 450gr, 475gr, 500gr, 525gr and 550gr Got sent 5 thick sided sample cases, same OD base as 585/375.416 cases, same belt, just .180" longer, did a 416 HE, chambered extra barrel , cases stick over 50k. They have about .042" total taper, .021" per side, when I necked couple to 416. That is a lot of taper , twice the taper of my 416HE...hanging up at 50k.. I could maybe go to 65k with these if we made taper with ..012" - .016" more taper to each side, but that is no way to build target cases. I'd have to crunch down case shoulder diameter. And would look like 30-30. And crazy part is, the case has enough brass material to thin up sides and stretch them way out to 4 or more inches,, They weigh 150 gr more than our 585/375/416,, but with real thick sides they actually hold less than our 416 HE with thin sides, that is .180" shorter...Our case does 65k ok without sticking.. And we can make super long 4" cases work if we had means to get them built, as we have 15 powders slower than HBMG.Here is pic of thin and thick sided cases, sectioned for comparison.Ed.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/thickthin.jpg[/IMG]
  22. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here in picture of the cases, are shown the steps in making our 416 HSM case, from BMG brass,, Ed We might have a company that is doing a bolt gun with an action between BMG size and longer rifle actions used for 375 HE, 375 Lethal, and Cheytacs.. To use for our 416 HSM without having to do extreme rebating of the rim. Here is picture of 620 416 hsm cases half done. Done on cnc , that slimmed them down, cut new rim and extractor groove. There are over 500 more at cnc getting done now, plus we have 1000s more bmg cases we make them from, when needed.. This case is public domain and if anyone wants to make them we can give the steps involved...Ed.
  23. C2065

    Cetme Rifle Manual

    Is the manual referred to in this stream still available.
  24. Hello to everyone and I hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving. I am not new to guns and I’ve been around them all of my life. And actually have quite the collection. About a year ago my son wanted an AR 15 for Christmas so I purchased a PSA A.R. 15 KIT and then the lower and he put it together. I liked it so much that I purchased one of my own not long after that. The weapon has done tremendous with the Short distance and long-distance pop up sites and my group rain has been very good. Not as good as the iron sites at the same distance from my SKS but good all the same. I’ve on the SKS for 25 years so it’s like an extension of me. Long story short I decided to buy scope for longer distances and I purchased the Nikon P2233 three Dash 9 x 40 as well as the Nikon one piece ring sad. Installation was a breeze and I brought the gun down yesterday to my parents who live in Country to side in the scope as well as look for some coyotes and other varmints. It didn’t take long to get the scope cited in perfect. My grouping of three shots is with than an average of .71 of each other. 810 shot at a somewhat rapidfire gave me a grouping of around threeInches. It doesn’t matter whether I shoot one or I shoot 20 it’s always the same. I’m about 3 inches to the left from center. I have tried everything that I know to Sadie in the scope and it’s not scope. It’s me. A little history, I was injured in 1990 in the golf and head plates put on my clavicle and my scapula but that never has. Made before. I am left-handed and everything I do for most everything I do except writing shooting and a couple other things but throwing a ball batting and most everything else I am just naturally a left-handed person. When I was in kindergarten the teacher changed me from left-handed to right-handed. Anybody have any idea what could be causing this. I’ve been through a couple hundred rounds today and yesterday just trying to figure out what’s going on. My grouping is precise every time but my accuracy is off by about 3 inches to the left of The bull’s-eye. Any input constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.
  25. hubel458

    700HE and 12GA FH

    Here is recap simple setup to get faster loads with 12ga sabots & slugs, Example using break actions...., reaming chamber in a 12ga break action to 3.5" with a 3.5" 12ga reamer, that isn't something needing special order, and use 3.5" plastic cases , or get 3.5" brass cases made. With mag shotgun primers and our slower powder loads you can get a quarter more speed, which gives 50% more energy... 585 Hubel Express video, 190ft/lbs recoil, heavy load, gun little light..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyS9zZ8ElJA Another view of Asteroid Precision's.... 375 HE target gun, Here is our 416 HSM we are developing next to 416 Barrett, Ed
  26. Cyberops

    Obama to move to NYC after Whitehouse

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